英国华人论坛 最近看过最好的关于留/退欧投票的文章,Guardi

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http://www.theguardian.com/higher-education-network/2016/jun/21/for-the-first-time-in-18-years-i-dont-feel-welcome-in-britain

文章来自于Guardian Education

I am a migrant from the European Union. You have probably heard lots of things about people like me in the referendum campaign, but you may not have actually heard from any of us. We have got more to lose than anyone else – our livelihoods depend on the outcome – but we do not have a voice, or a vote.

I came to live in the UK in 1998, to study for a PhD. Before that, in 1993-94, I had been an exchange student here, partly funded by the EU’s Erasmus programme. It was on that occasion that I got to know and love Britain as an open-minded and welcoming country. My landlady was one of the kindest and warmest people I have ever met. My fellow students later came to visit me at my (then) home in Berlin, and I’m still friends with many of them. I returned to Britain as soon I could.

After finishing my PhD, I embarked on a post-doc and then moved to another university, where I worked for eight years, before taking up my current post. I have profited from the openness of UK academia and the mobility offered by EU membership. I have very rarely encountered prejudice or discrimination, and have been able to thrive as a result.

Give and take

But, as in any good partnership, I have given a lot back. I have worked hard to educate thousands of students over the years. I have undertaken research and written books and articles. I have worked as a head of department and an external examiner, and taken on countless administrative roles at my own institutions and in other bodies.

There are thousands of people like me at British universities – one study puts the figure at 15 per cent – and the country has undoubtedly benefited from the international nature of this workforce. To compete internationally, the UK’s universities have to be able to attract the best talent, wherever it is found. Success in the international rankings relies on their ability to do just that.

If the UK votes to leave, it will become less attractive not only for EU nationals, but for the brightest and best across the world. Several US-born colleagues, for example, have told me that one of the reasons they settled in the UK was because indefinite leave to remain here gave them access to the EU.

But the signs are ominous. The referendum campaign has created an atmosphere of hostility towards immigrants, in ways I have never experienced in my 18 years in this country. We are being blamed for the state of public services such as health, housing and education, and for undercutting wages, even though the real culprits – chronic underinvestment, poor planning, ineffective governance and watered-down labour laws – are entirely homemade.

The tales of intimidation and threats against pro-Remain campaigners, immigrants and their supporters are a cause for serious concern. There is no doubt that many Leave proponents are decent, thoughtful people, but there is also no doubt that parts of the campaign have played on xenophobia and emboldened nasty, violent racists.

‘It’s not you, it’s them’
I have been told: “It’s not about people like you, it’s the others.” I am, apparently, a “useful” foreigner. So who are the others they are talking about? The Polish plumbers? The Lithuanian fruit pickers? The Spanish nurses? The Greek doctors? Or is it the benefit tourists, those mythical creatures that, like the Loch Ness monster, have never actually been spotted, but that surely must exist, given the amount of conversation about them?

Even in the event of a vote to Remain, it will be difficult to control the forces that have been unleashed in this campaign. And it is difficult to imagine what the UK would turn into after a Brexit, possibly under the leadership of Messrs Johnson, Gove and Farage. What is certain, however, is that it will no longer be the country that embraced me – and that I fell in love with – all those years ago.

I don’t know whether I would be allowed to stay, but, like many others, I am beginning to wonder why I would want to. I would hate to leave the country that has been my home for almost 20 years and that has been so good to me – but if it comes to that, the real loser will be Britain.

The writer is an EU national teaching music at a Scottish university


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首先有道理,外加我本身不投票. 另外这个–Several US-born colleagues, for example, have told me that one of the reasons they settled in the UK was because indefinite leave to remain here gave them access to the EU.不对吧。永居和入籍两码事儿啊


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来英国那么多年早可以申请永居了吧。。。现在申请也不晚呀。。。


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very good piece


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退欧要阻止的是不贡献就拿福利的(就因为2011年到14年对罗保等所有东欧国家全面放开free movement,才使这样的人陡然增加),退欧对象这样工作来的允许啊,为啥他认为退欧就是赶他走呢,不明白。是宣传没到位还是他的理解没到位?


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随便吐吐槽,以前觉得英国人绅士友好,待久了才发现他们实际内心谁都看不起,虽然没有特别明显的种族歧视理论,但是他们确实还是觉得自己高人一等。一开始还会和他们讨论,后来发现根本没有意义,你说你的,他们嘴上说噢噢噢,下次还是一样的言论。。。


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英国对nonEU一直以来都是这个态度,上学工作签证各种限制,新加的nhs费用考虑交税的工作人士了吗

要说失望我们才早就失望了,因为一直以来都是希望我们nonEU只贡献不索取,就这样还不欢迎

EU的现在表示失望,但至少对其它nonEU的是公平了吧


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对于移民增多导致的英国人不满问题
关键在于下一步怎么治理:

控制移民,还是进一步增加移民?


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说一句大白话

如果不是英国生活好… …

国内大城市,连外来人口(农村来的人)都不怎么欢迎,又怎么会欢迎农村来的阿三呢?


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把穆斯林放在嘴边的退欧人士,却没有想过,无论偷渡客,技术移民,投资移民,在不少英格兰白人内心深处,华人和穆斯林,罗马尼亚吉普赛人是等同的。所以一个多元的英国社会,才是最好的选择。再过几十年,随着教育的普及,宗教势力会慢慢消亡的。现在的恐怖主义才有多少年历史?而100多年来,不同的意识形态也曾给世界带来灾难的打击,造成人类不同阵营的对立,毁灭世界的核战争一触即发。n多年后的今天看起来,那只是一个时代的产物而已,人类社会进程的一部分。未来世界将会更和谐。

退欧是固步自封。

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